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Fat Janemba vs SSJ Gotenks (Pre Rosat)
Topic Started: Oct 12 2012, 05:37 PM (1,654 Views)
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Who wins?
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janemba, ssj3 goku in movie 12 was way more powerful in the underworld than the goku that fought fat boo imho.
not that he cant be the same goku, but its after boo saga. Goku has gotten more powerful like every saiyan does after a fight. Boo was the top of the list until janemba.

So if fat janemba alone reminds goku of majin boo then Super janemba was a handful .

I think gotenks doesnt succeed.
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In the movie going by the "strongest ki felt" comment Fat Janemba may very well actually be the strongest ki felt by Goku making him stronger than Gotenks. But canon wise.. I say SSJ Gotenks(pre) takes it if he really is close to Goku or a bit beyond.
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if the movie characters are advanced though, then going by movie 13 goku outstrips gotenks by a good measure.

so im not sure a canon argument works unless we can prove the movie characters have no reason for their strength level besides plot device.
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Paikuan extreme
Oct 12 2012, 05:44 PM
janemba, ssj3 goku in movie 12 was way more powerful in the underworld than the goku that fought fat boo imho.
not that he cant be the same goku, but its after boo saga. Goku has gotten more powerful like every saiyan does after a fight. Boo was the top of the list until janemba.

So if fat janemba alone reminds goku of majin boo then Super janemba was a handful .

I think gotenks doesnt succeed.
It's not after the Boo Saga. The only time Vegeta and Goku are both dead and in Otherworld is after the Fat Boo fight, but before the Gotenks-Boo fight.

@Topic: Fat Janemba would stomp Gotenks. It took all SSjin3 Goku had to put Fatty Chin-Chins out of his misery, and Goku was stated to have powered up since he fought Fat Boo. By simple powerscaling, we can see just how high Goku and Janemba rank.

SSjin3 Goku (canon) < SSjin Gotenks (pre) < SSjin Gotenks (post, expected) < Initial Super Boo < Fat Janemba < SSjin3 Goku (M12)
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SSJ3 Goku in the move would beat post-rosat SSJ Gotenks, Fat Janemba highest Ki, Goku felt, so by his words even stronger then Gotenks.
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Oct 12 2012, 07:15 PM
SSJ3 Goku in the move would beat post-rosat SSJ Gotenks, Fat Janemba highest Ki, Goku felt, so by his words even stronger then Gotenks.
Goku hadn't felt post-RoSaT Gotenks's power.
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How do you know?
Idk AFAIK Kids learned Kamikaze ghost in the RoSaT didn't they?
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Oct 12 2012, 07:30 PM
How do you know?
Idk AFAIK Kids learned Kamikaze ghost in the RoSaT didn't they?
Yes, they did. Aha, I see what you're getting at. In-universe, Goku would've felt post-RoSaT SSjin Gotenks's power, right? But here's the thing. In that universe, it's most likely that Gotenks beat Boo in the RoSaT, and thus didn't have to come out fused, so Goku wouldn't have felt his power. There's no evidence Gotenks formed after Boo's defeat in that universe either. The strongest power Goku would've felt would've been Super Boo's initial power, like in the manga.
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SSjin Gotenks (Pre) is around at this point. Goku states that Janemba is the greatest power he has ever felt.

Fat Janemba >> SSjin Gotenks (Pre)
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I think Janemba would win, simply because I have SSJ 3 Goku higher than SSJ pre Gotenks.
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Did Super Janemba get more power after he transformed from the Fat one? Or are they the same but just changed bodies?
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^He was way stronger, considering that Fatty got tooled by Goku, but Super beat Goku relatively easily.
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Fatty couldn't move though.
Idk, and that wasn't even though Full Powered Janemba too, he charged up when Gogeta formed, hmm.
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Oh yeah, Fat Janemba would win. IT's spelled out that Goku here is stronger than his Boo arc self...so, MSS Gotenks would probably get beaten as bad or if not worse than Base Gotenks Vs. Fat Boo imo.
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