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| Fat Janemba vs SSJ Gotenks (Pre Rosat) | |
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| Team Four Star | Oct 12 2012, 05:37 PM Post #1 |
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Who wins? |
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Oct 12 2012, 05:44 PM Post #2 |
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janemba, ssj3 goku in movie 12 was way more powerful in the underworld than the goku that fought fat boo imho. not that he cant be the same goku, but its after boo saga. Goku has gotten more powerful like every saiyan does after a fight. Boo was the top of the list until janemba. So if fat janemba alone reminds goku of majin boo then Super janemba was a handful . I think gotenks doesnt succeed. |
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Oct 12 2012, 05:52 PM Post #3 |
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In the movie going by the "strongest ki felt" comment Fat Janemba may very well actually be the strongest ki felt by Goku making him stronger than Gotenks. But canon wise.. I say SSJ Gotenks(pre) takes it if he really is close to Goku or a bit beyond. |
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Oct 12 2012, 06:08 PM Post #4 |
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if the movie characters are advanced though, then going by movie 13 goku outstrips gotenks by a good measure. so im not sure a canon argument works unless we can prove the movie characters have no reason for their strength level besides plot device. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 12 2012, 06:30 PM Post #5 |
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It's not after the Boo Saga. The only time Vegeta and Goku are both dead and in Otherworld is after the Fat Boo fight, but before the Gotenks-Boo fight. @Topic: Fat Janemba would stomp Gotenks. It took all SSjin3 Goku had to put Fatty Chin-Chins out of his misery, and Goku was stated to have powered up since he fought Fat Boo. By simple powerscaling, we can see just how high Goku and Janemba rank. SSjin3 Goku (canon) < SSjin Gotenks (pre) < SSjin Gotenks (post, expected) < Initial Super Boo < Fat Janemba < SSjin3 Goku (M12) |
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Oct 12 2012, 07:15 PM Post #6 |
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SSJ3 Goku in the move would beat post-rosat SSJ Gotenks, Fat Janemba highest Ki, Goku felt, so by his words even stronger then Gotenks. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 12 2012, 07:24 PM Post #7 |
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Goku hadn't felt post-RoSaT Gotenks's power. |
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Oct 12 2012, 07:30 PM Post #8 |
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How do you know? Idk AFAIK Kids learned Kamikaze ghost in the RoSaT didn't they? |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 12 2012, 07:35 PM Post #9 |
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Yes, they did. Aha, I see what you're getting at. In-universe, Goku would've felt post-RoSaT SSjin Gotenks's power, right? But here's the thing. In that universe, it's most likely that Gotenks beat Boo in the RoSaT, and thus didn't have to come out fused, so Goku wouldn't have felt his power. There's no evidence Gotenks formed after Boo's defeat in that universe either. The strongest power Goku would've felt would've been Super Boo's initial power, like in the manga. |
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| Hurry My Curry | Oct 12 2012, 10:36 PM Post #10 |
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SSjin Gotenks (Pre) is around at this point. Goku states that Janemba is the greatest power he has ever felt. Fat Janemba >> SSjin Gotenks (Pre) |
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| SSJ | Oct 12 2012, 11:50 PM Post #11 |
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I think Janemba would win, simply because I have SSJ 3 Goku higher than SSJ pre Gotenks. |
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Oct 13 2012, 01:38 AM Post #12 |
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Did Super Janemba get more power after he transformed from the Fat one? Or are they the same but just changed bodies? |
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| + Kyouks | Oct 13 2012, 01:46 AM Post #13 |
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^He was way stronger, considering that Fatty got tooled by Goku, but Super beat Goku relatively easily. |
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Oct 13 2012, 02:02 AM Post #14 |
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Fatty couldn't move though. Idk, and that wasn't even though Full Powered Janemba too, he charged up when Gogeta formed, hmm. |
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| Saberoph | Oct 13 2012, 02:47 AM Post #15 |
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Oh yeah, Fat Janemba would win. IT's spelled out that Goku here is stronger than his Boo arc self...so, MSS Gotenks would probably get beaten as bad or if not worse than Base Gotenks Vs. Fat Boo imo. |
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